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Loki ([personal profile] throneenvy) wrote in [community profile] fossilised2017-05-15 01:29 pm

I come from a land of ice and snow

Asgard sat atop the branches of Yggdrasil since time began, and little had changed in their society in the years since. Each Asgardian was long-lived into the millennia, their lands were fertile, their people brave and strong. They had their vassals, their allies, and their enemies. Yet even those who opposed them respected the might of the Golden Dias, and the royalty who sat upon it. Currently that was Odin Borson, though he grew weary more easily now and had begun to consider passing the throne to his eldest son.

He had been blessed with many children, but only two that he considered worthy of his lineage and status. His firstborn, Thor, strong and honourable and everything an Asgardian warrior should be. His second son, Loki, was not natural born, though none knew that but his wife. He was different, a creature of magic and mayhem, of sharp intelligence. Both were worthy, but together they would take Asgard to a new prosperity, he was certain of it.

Midgard, where the mortals dwelt, was a land raided every few centuries for stock. It was seen as a breeding ground, much like a corral for cattle. Mortals were lesser, short-lived and weak, they were fit only as slaves. The last raid had taken place when Loki had been but a baby, nearly a thousand years ago, but the mortals that had been taken had been bred and cared for so that a healthy slave population still thrived. Slaves were given a weakened mixture of Idunn's crop with their food, to extend their natural lives to at least a few centuries in order to make them worth the effort to train. They had no rights, but they were taught well that this was their natural position.

All slave children were raised in a central pen and taught the same when small, those that then displayed talent at cooking, riding, hunting, housework, artisan skills, or singing were then measured off to be specially trained for higher masters. Every five years those who could afford to buy a slave, or those of high enough status to simply demand them, came to the corral and chose. Those who were chosen were special, were envied, and those who were not ended up working the fields out in the far reaches of Asgard, the most menial of work.

Anthony and Steven had been friends since they were little and being raised in the large pens together. Both had excelled, Anthony at crafting and Steven at warrior's skills, but neither were chosen when they were five, nor ten, nor even fifteen. Now, at twenty, it was their final chance to be chosen before they would be assigned to one of the meanest farmers beyond the borders of the great capital. Steven woke Anthony as the dawn rose, mingled excitement and nerves on his face.

"Anthony! Wake up, I've got news! I heard the overseer talking to one of the passing guards, and Princes Thor and Loki are coming to the corral today."
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-20 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm ready to try to have you understand my way of life and why it's right for our people," Anthony said. He had come to realize over the last few hours in Bruce's arms that they were never going to agree. The Midgardians here had been free for too long. They might not have a history of slavery at all (he didn't know that they had enslaved each other for centuries). Freedom could corrupt, it could make a purposeless people try to eek out their own lives without stability. Sometimes Anthiny felt that way about the Asgardians but he knew that even they were not free. They lived their lives to strict codes and hierarchies as did the other Realms under Asgard. Not even the All-Father was truly free, tied to his throne though he was.

All living creatures needed structure and guideance. Asgardians had to expend more energy to police themselves. Midgardians, Anthony truly thought, were the luckiest of all. They always had enough to eat and always had a place to sleep. They led lives full of meaning.

And that was a great gift the other races of the Realms did not have.

He gestured to the other room where the dining room table laid unused. They had all eaten together in the back room on the floor.

"You must keep an open mind. And... I will do the same."
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[personal profile] rogers_that 2017-09-20 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It was so very strange to hear Tony-- Anthony talk that way, he was used to the brash and arrogant way that his Tony bulldozered through any opposition to his point of view, rather than agree to be calm and measured during a conversation this heightened in tension.

"I will do what I can."

But he would never be able to see slavery as anything but abhorrent. Even if he hadn't thought that way anyway, seeing what being forced under someone else's yoke had done to Bucky would have cemented his views. He just couldn't understand how these people could be happy to be slaves; even when slaves had been kept throughout human history, they had always fought to be free.

"So-- uh, who should go first?"
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-20 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)

“I’m the prisoner here. I requested the conversation. I’m the one who wants to learn something.” He gestured to Steve, following tactics he’d seen Loki employ many times. Flattery, but only just so, was immediately followed up by setting the stage for the other person to lay their entire selves and their arguments bare. He could pick things more easily apart this way and hopefully offer rebuttals or learn the way to get himself into the good graces of those holding them here. And that was all that mattered at this early stage of the game.

He could not risk losing any more of his people. Not until they knew their likely fate.

Anthony sat not at the head of the table, but close to it, hands folded. He never cared to be at a table, it felt unnatural to him, especially when there weren’t benches but individual chairs.

Nothing about this felt communal and that was what his life had always been.

He doubted Steve would understand so he did not offer this to him immediately, even if presenting a vulnerability could work in his favour here.

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[personal profile] rogers_that 2017-09-21 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"Alright, I guess I can roll with that."

Steve took a seat a bit further down the table, not even thinking about their relative positioning. He laced his hands under his chin and thought for a moment, wanting this to come out right, eyes earnest and sincere.

"You probably don't know, but we have a history of slavery too. We enslaved each other sometimes because of stupid reasons, like the colour of our skin being different, or just being from another place. But it was always ended because-- because every person deserves the right to live their life how they want to live it, not forced to be what someone else thinks they should be."

He frowned, though more out of eagerness to get his point across than anger.

"Nobody should ever be thought of as property."
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-21 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"Everyone person also has a right to shelter and to sustainance and to have worth," Anthony said, carefully trying to keep his anger and disbelief at this backwards thinking to himself. "Midgard enslaved other Midgardians out of a need for power, dominance, or because they thought themselves better than their peers. But where I'm from, every Midgardian starts the same. Everyone has the same opportunity to find worth in their life and if they can not, they are given worth. And food. And shelter. And work....we don't pay for it. We don't subjugate others to get it. The price of freedom is extremely high. You can be free and nothing. The vast majority of your people probably are nothing. Their lives have little meeting. but each one of my people have a place and a purpose. That's because Midgardians deserve it. Asgardians, Vanir, Jotnar...they're not better than we are. Everyone is the same that lives in the branches of Yggdrassil. But we all have our place. Asgard rules and protects. The Vanir have their magic. And Midgard serves."

Anthony sat forward, watching the frown on Steve's face without understanding it. He'd been in many verbal sparring matches before, but never with this particularly blue pair of eyes gazing at him.

And maybe he ought to start there.

"Steven and I were born around the same time and brought to the Training Village. I've known him my entire life. As a child he was very sickly. He could hardly breathe, his eyes were terrible and he was forever catching colds. After a few months of watching this progress, our Trainers brought him to the city and he was given healing honey." Steve would know what that was from Bucky's imbibing of it. "And when he returned, he was fit and fall and he didn't get sick anymore. If we were merely property, he would have been discarded to make room for another, healthier Midgardian who could learn to read and write and fight without any of that. Yes, Steve, we may have masters, we may be owned, and we may be property, but we are well cared for. Even those of us who are not lucky enough to be chosen as part of a personal slave stable and who do other tasks around the Realms are cared for until they die."
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[personal profile] rogers_that 2017-09-22 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
It makes a horrible and twisted sort of sense, but he really doesn't like it at all. He can't deny that food and shelter for all is something that the human race on his version of Earth really hasn't managed to perfect yet, but having it come at the cost of freedom is far too high a cost.

"And what about if someone decided they didn't want to do the work assigned to them?"

This was where it all fell down, because there was no way that he believed there weren't cruel masters or punishments, he didn't believe that they were all just pampered and treated for their illnesses and valued as something more than property.

"What about if someone assigned to... I don't know... farm? Decided that they wanted to blacksmith instead, or someone assigned to fight decided they wanted to sew clothes. Can you refuse an order your owner gives you if you think it goes against your morals and beliefs?"
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 10:36 am (UTC)(link)

"No everyone gets to be what they want to be," Anthony admitted. "Tell me, Steve, is that how it worked for your planet? At any time, if someone wanted to change their lot in life, did they have the ability to do it? I'd like to take the word freedom off of the table. I have only felt less than free three times in my life. Each time, I was separated from my Master."

He wouldn't go into details. Being away from Loki was like missing a piece of himself. Even the kitchen slaves with them felt that way. They served a household, not just one person. And yet they felt as if the household might suffer while a new slave was trained. And it was true. The household would.

Slaves might seem expendable but they truly were not.

Anthony exploited how uncomfortable Steve looked by upping how depressed he looked on his face. He felt it deeply and endlessly but he was measured in how much of that he showed.

"Midgardians typically have short lives. A hundred years if they are lucky, seventy or so on average. Much of that time is spend in learning. And after that, working at how they learned. I do not believe that your people have experienced the ability to be anything they wanted. There is demand for some fields. There is more work in some industries. Some can never achieve their potential. That is the way of all Realms no matter their roles. I need not know about yours entirely to know that truth. At least for my people, we all have meaning. We have vocation. And while a field hand might not care to toil, she knows that she is feeding the Realm and that brings happiness."

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[personal profile] rogers_that 2017-09-22 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
"No, not everyone can be something that they want to be, but I come from a country where the ability to make that choice is at the core of who we are. If I worked on the field and I didn't want to, then I could choose to try and do something else. Maybe I wouldn't succeed, but I'd have the same shot as anyone else, and I'd at least be able to follow my dreams."

He hated how logically Anthony laid it all out, because the arguments he made had a sense to them even if it was twisted and warped by the Stockholm Syndrome that they were all clearly suffering from.

"Doesn't it bother you that even your body doesn't belong to you? That your master could tell you to have children with a stranger and you'd have to do it, whether you wanted to or not? Do you think your master hasn't already got a new slave by now?"

He refused to believe loyalty could be shown both ways, anyone who could keep a slave must see them as pets at best and property at worst.
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
In a way, Anthony was touting a sort of communism. Maybe even a form of fascism that worked in theory and in practice, unlike it had on Earth. He did not believe that anyone could do anything. Kings were born and not made. Farm hands were strong. Warriors were brave. Kitchen help could cook. "A person is suited to only a few lives. I might long to be a warrior like Steven, to protect my master and his possessions, but I was not born to that. Many of your people were not born to what they would want to be. I do not believe you when you say that everyone has the same advantage. I saw how your people scattered when we came. Had it been reversed, my people would have come together to protect the weak. We studied your world from a far. Midgard was broken. Her governments, her people... Everyone hated everyone. So many were starving. Here I am, the Prince's personal slave. I want for nothing. And so many of you were dying. Every. Day."

It was getting to Steve. The logic. But he needed his heart strings tugged too. And that Anthony could do easily with the questions presented to him.

"If my master wished for me to mate, I would. It is my duty. But I was glad he did not want me to. I am not interested in securing my line. That's selfish of me. My children would be able to serve Prince Loki when the apples cease to keep me young and I pass to Hel or. Valhala. One day he will ask me to give him my progeny and I will do as he wishes. Or I will ask him to allow me to have get. And he will allow this too."

He exhaled slowly and tried not to let the thought of being replaced make him angry. But he was hot headed and his eyes flashed Amber as he looked at Steve.

"My prince is looking for a way to come for me. I am not replaceable. Not easily. None of us are. We have centuries of training, our skills can not just be transferred. And he trusts and cares for me. One day he will need to find another but that is not today."
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[personal profile] rogers_that 2017-09-22 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
It was getting to Steve, the idea that anyone could be happy in their slavery was abhorrent to him, but it was getting harder and harder to deny that this was what Tony was-- Anthony, not Tony, it was hard to remember. Perhaps this was harder from a selfish standpoint of seeing someone he cared about espouse these sort of things, when he knew how much damage had been done to one of his friends.

"And what about my people?"

Steve's expression darkened, but he kept his anger under check.

"What about the way my people were treated? Maybe you and yours accept slavery and are happy to be born into it, but you can't look at the suffering caused to my people and say that it was the same thing. You captured and abused them, don't you think that was wrong?"

He had no idea what he was going to do with this if Anthony really did believe that they hadn't done anything wrong to the people of his Earth.

"You wiped out our home, you slaughtered thousands, and made thousands more into traumatised people far from their families."
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
"Do not try to find a moral high ground with that argument. We watched transmissions from your world. We saw all of the ways that one group tried to pressure and control and destroy another. Your planet has wiped out whole settlements and whole groups of people over something as idiotic as skin colour!" He was getting fiery now. He could taste his temper rising.

But Anthony was so young. So impetuous. He had a master who brought out all of the chaos within him. And he had a difficult time holding his tongue. Always.

"We wanted to save you from yourselves. What we did was the same as what you've always done to yourselves. Except we have given your children the keys to happiness. Your world was not destroyed when we left it. The people we took were to be left on the training moon with food and water and shelter to sustain their population for centuries. But this is what happens when Midgard is left on their own. They destroy themselves. Is that what happened to your planet? We took a mere twenty thousand of your eight billion citizens. Did the rest destroy themselves? Likely. Just as we know that the twenty thousand we took would eventually slaughter themselves too. Midgardians without direction are brutal and horrible to each other."
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[personal profile] rogers_that 2017-09-22 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
"You're speaking of your own people."

Steve's own anger was bleeding through as well now. It made him literally sick to his stomach to hear Anthony talk about what they had done as though it had truly been a favour and not a sick kidnapping and torture that had ruined an entire planet. Perhaps there had been war, perhaps they had wiped themselves out after, but the Asgardians had been the catalyst.

"And if you insist that you helped them of your own free will, then we really will have no choice but to try you all for the war crimes against our people."

He didn't know whether execution would be a thing in their new society, he assumed a vote would be had on it. But they would all surely either be executed or kept imprisoned for the rest of their lives.
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)

What was a life anyway without Loki? Anthony had no purpose here other than to try and keep and comfort his people. Perhaps Bruce had been right to worry for Anthony had had the upper hand until his temper burst out and his I know everything attitude took over. Anthony slammed his hands on the table and stood. It would have been threatening if Steve had been anyone else…or if Anthony had been taller.

“Do whatever you must,” he said, his English thick with that British accent he affected to speak it in All-Speak. There were angry, hurting, lonely tears just behind the corners of his eyes but he could not weep for what he had lost.

After all, he’d lost Loki before. And Loki had always returned to him. Loki plucked him out of nothing and made him who he was. He would not embarrass his Master by weeping openly.

“If you think any of us are afraid of your threats, you’re wrong. If you think this makes you better than us…you’re wrong there too. We gave your people a future with meaning. And you’re offering us nothing but a death sentence.” There were not many prisoners on Asgard. The Realms tended to snuff out those that they felt were criminal. It was just how Anthony assumed it would be.

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[personal profile] rogers_that 2017-09-22 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm not threatening you, I'm telling you what will happen because even if you're a criminal you have the right to know what's happening with your custody or trial."

Steve had already come to the conclusion that this wasn't going to get him anywhere. As much as he hated to fail, he wasn't so arrogant as to think that he never would or never could. These people likely would never have integrated well anyway, their own people were too hurt and fractured from what had happened and would never have trusted them. Perhaps, in some ways, it was better this way.

He had just stood up, preparatory to leaving, when an enormous crash shook the ground so much that he stumbled. The accompanying boom was loud enough that he could only hear a dull ringing when the dust cleared, showing that the wall had actually cracked. The apple-fed Midgardians might be hardier with their hearing, though, and so Anthony might hear a familiar pair of voices shouting in Aesir and the unmistakable feel of Loki's magic mingling with that of Mjolnir to create another localised blast.
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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)

Anthony squared his shoulders. He wanted to weep in thanks, for the last few days had felt like an eternity, but he was much too pleased to do anything but smirk at Steve. “You should run,” he said, looking almost demented as he heard his people, and Bruce, rush into the room, each with a truly relieved and exalted look to their faces. All of them knew the voices of their princes, though most here had never been a personal servant. That hardly mattered, however, as each man and woman now gathered felt a strong affinity for their positions.

No one blocked Steve Barnes from leaving, but the two Princes, likewise, were not interested in making war upon a Realm that they could not beat themselves. They hadn’t, after all, brought an army with them. Thor’s use of Mjolnir was meant merely to distract within the Midgardian settlement outside of the capital city upon Vanaheim. Destruction was preferred, but they did not wish to draw the attention of every powerful sorcerer that happened to live upon the Realm.

They merely wanted what was theirs back.

And if they could kill the cheeky, poisoned Midgardians in the process? Well that would be lovely too.

Thor, wide and proud with his hair done up in braids and face painted in blue stripes and swirls for this battle, tore down a building as Loki was left to find those stolen from his charge. He found the whole thing an amusement.

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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)

Midgardians fed the golden apples of life were much, much stronger than the mortal men guarding them and while they had known that, and had a Berserker on their side, none had tried to break out of their prison until they heard Loki’s rallying cry.

Immediately, the others fled to get to Loki, but Anthony lingered as Steve watched them all go.

He grabbed the blond by the shirt, stronger than Tony Stark was, and hauled him down. “You look like my brother. You sound like my brother. You made an effort to be my brother. You treated us as well as you could. For that, I’m letting you go. Return to your people, and quickly. Keep them away from my Prince or they will die.”

Anthony shoved Steve back and hopped over the table to get to the door, finally letting the tears in his eyes collect along his lashline. He was so happy he couldn’t contain them.

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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)

Hefting Mjolnir to his shoulder, Thor rolled his eyes and headed slowly towards his brother. Most of the poisoned Midgardians had fled by that point and he stepped over those that did not. “I do not wish for more to do with this,” he said, truthfully. “We have come what we came found. Do not leave our dead behind. They will be buried as is fitting.”

Those alive, those that had rallied to Loki as he had commanded, loved Thor for his words. It cemented to them how right they were in their view point. Their way of life mattered.

“We must send their souls to Valhala properly, for they have earned this right.”

Several Midgardians cheered for their crowned prince as he left to fetch their dead. Several went with him to assist, though he hardly needed it.

In one of the partially destroyed buildings, Tony kept his arms around the girl. She could easily teleport away, but he hoped she would not. He was trembling, the return of these Asgardians was traumatizing. “They’re leaving,” he kept whispering. “Let them. Don’t get yourself killed. Stay with me,” he begged. It was not his finest moment, but he had so few of them since his initial capture.

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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)

“They will kill you,” Tony hissed, because it was the truth. “You’re powerful, but you’re half that one’s age. So think about it, princess!” He was a coward, yes, he had become a coward when up against these people, but he was also angry. Half at himself, and half because he knew he could not do a damned thing about it either. This Loki had killed their Thor. It shouldn’t have been possible, but he managed it. So killing a younger version of himself? That would be easy.

He could hear the heavy Aesir, thick like a more Germanic version of Bokmal, something akin to what those in the upper reaches of Norway spoke and likely a bastardized version of it considering how easily humans changed and updated their languages, could hear a voice that sounded very much like his own speaking one part and another, Loki’s speaking in response.

He hated the obvious affection in the speech. Tony was by no means a linguist, but he knew enough languages to be able to pick out sentiment.

And, indeed, outside, Anthony was covertly standing close to the taller man, fingers very lightly clamped at the second knuckle of his middle and forefinger around the leather of his tunic. “How much time has passed? Vanaheim should be moving twice the speed as the training moon but across the void, it’s hard to tell,” Anthony was saying, making light conversation that was dripping with impossible to hide love and relief. “It’s been five days for us…a fortnight for you?”

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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-22 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)

“No.” Tony was adamant. “They’re not trying to kill anyone right now, they’re going back. Just let them.” It wasn’t admirable to be stupid. No one’s pride here was at stake. “Stay here and help us close up whatever way they were able to get here. You’re the void specialist, aren’t you?” He hoped he was ticking off some of the boxes on the Loki List of Charms here. He needed her to listen to him and not to risk herself.

She was their protector, their way in this new reality, and they needed her.

Tony needed her too, but he wasn’t willing to say that outright. Even as she stroked his hair, he did her as well, soothing and maybe just a little desperate. If he couldn’t talk her out of this, her brother would turn his massive back on them and…that might well be that. “Just…stay here with me.”

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[personal profile] starkingenuity 2017-09-23 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)

Tony's eyes lifted. He didn't want to put himself in harm's way, he liked to live and to breathe, he wanted to continue to exist, but there was something compelling about the princess that made Tony want to follow her.

He knew it was a dangerous thought. He knew that two people couldn't bring down a universe. What revenge could they realistically take?

And as that question laid unanswered, another popped up above it, drowning out the logic.

What if this was his life from now on? What if this was all he had? What if he never stopped being afraid and losing everyone?

"All right."

He couldn't believe what he was saying, but he nodded. "At least we'll have some fun before we die. Like Sheryl Crowe's bar friend."

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